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Jim Moret is in Los Angeles with the latest -- Jim. Ted Thompson and First Officer Bill Tansky detecting a problem with the planes stabilizing mechanism and contacting Alaska Airlines maintenance base in Seattle. (in the background during previous transmission)1612:55 LAX-MX-1 yea two sixty one maintenance uh uh you getting full nose trim down but are you getting any you don't get no nose trim up is that correct?1613:04 RDO-1 that's affirm we went to full nose down and I'm afraid to try it again to see if we can get it to go in the other direction.1613:10 LAX-MX-1 ok well your discretion uh if you want to try it, that's ok with me if not that's fine. "We're flying . few clouds at two thousand eight hundred. "I know them so well. Many relatives of crash victims attended the hearing yesterday. If a private company tried to turn the Flight 261 disaster into a commercial for their product, an outraged public would probably hound them out of business. -- 4:11:44 -- Thompson: Yeah, no, it went down, it went to full nose down. Accident; Date: January 31, 2000 () Summary: Loss of control caused by Jackscrew failure due to improper maintenance. So, in the midst of this tragedy, nearly 90 people had an extraordinary opportunity to get right with their Maker just prior to meeting Him. I believe he's talking about this---1550:25 CAM-2 oh.1550:25 CAM-1 ---switch that's on the * that's on the pedestal.1550:27 CAM-2 yea okay.1550:31 CAM-1 do you see anything back there?1550:32 CAM [Sound of click]1550:33 CAM-2 uh there's *.1550:40 SEA-MX and two sixty one, maintenance.1550:42.0 RDO-1 go ahead maintenance two six one.1550:44 SEA-MX understand you're requesting uh diversion to L A for this uh discrepancy is there a specific reason you prefer L A over San Francisco?1550:45 MZT Alaska two sixty one radar service terminated contact uh Los Angeles center frequency one one nine decimal ninety five good day.1550:54.4 RDO-1 well a lotta times its windy and rainy and wet in San Francisco and uh, it seemed to me that a dry runway where the wind is usually right down the runway seemed a littlemore reasonable.1550:55.0 RDO-2 one one nine ninety five Alaska two sixty one.1551:01.2 RDO-2 say again the frequency one one nine point eh ninety five?1551:05 MZT affirm one one nine decimal ninety five.1551:09.3 RDO-2 roger.1551:09.9 SEA-MX ok and uh is this added fuel that you're gonna have in LA gonna be a complication or an advantage?1551:18.1 RDO-1 well the way I'm reading it uh heavier airplanes land faster right now I got fifteen five on board, I'm thinking to land with about twelve which is still uh an hour and forty minutes uh and those are the numbers I'm running up here.1551:20.6 RDO-2 L A Alaska two sixty one three one zero.1551:36 SEA-MX ok uh two sixty one standby for dispatch.1551:38 RDO-2 Los Angeles Alaska two sixty one three one zero.1551:40 RDO-1 OK the other thing you gotta know is that they're talking about holding and delays in San Francisco um for your maintenance facil- eh you know planning uh it uh L Aseemed like a smarter move from airworthy move.1551:42 LAX-CTR1 Alaska two sixty one L A center roger.1551:50 RDO-2 * there's two people on the frequency I'm sorry Alaska two sixty one I didn't hear your response.1551:58 LAX-CTR1 Alaska two six one squawk two zero one zero.1552:01 RDO-2 two zero one zero Alaska two sixty one.1552:02 SEA-DIS two sixty one dispatch uh current San Francisco weather one eight zero at six, nine miles, few at fifteen hundred broken twenty eight hundred overcast thirty four hundred uh if uh you want to land at L A of course for safety reasons we will do that uh wu we'll uh tell you though that if we land in LA uh we'll be looking at probably an hour to an hour and a half we have a major flow program going right now. DAVIS: The two families, the Clemetsons (ph) and the Pearsons, close friends, were on the flight with their six children: Blake, Cori (ph), Miles, Spencer, Rachel and Grace. T wenty years ago this month I sat quietly in the NTSB's Cockpit Voice Recorder (CVR) Laboratory listening to the final 31 minutes of Alaska Airlines flight 261, a McDonnell Douglas (now Boeing) MD-83 airplane that had crashed off the coast of Ventura, California. Ethiopian Airlines 302. . Captain Ted Thompson asked First Officer William Tansky after the plane had turned upside down. Alaska Airlines Flight 261 was an international passenger flight from Puerto Vallarta to a stopover in San Francisco International Airport, to its destination in Seattle-Tacoma International Airport which suffered a serious mechanical failure on January 31, 2000, while flying over the Pacific Ocean, 4.3 km north of Anacapa Island in California.The two pilots, three flight attendants and the . An official website of the United States government. ok lets head for L A.1619:21.1 CAM [sound of faint thump]1619:24 CAM-2 you feel that?1619:25 CAM-1 yea.1619:29 CAM-1 ok gimme sl--- see, this is a bitch.1619:31 CAM-2 is it?1619:31 CAM-1 yea.1619:32.8 CAM [sound of two clicks similar to slat/flap handle movement]1619:36 CAM-? NTSB officials also said it was too early to link the crash with an incident involving an American Airlines jet yesterday. PORT HUENEME, Calif., Feb. 3 -- Eyewitnesses to the crash of Alaska Airlines flight 261 have told investigators that they saw the plane spin into a nosedive . PORT HUENEME, Calif. The terrified pilots aboard Alaska Airlines Flight 261 were caught on tape desperately trying to right the jet after it flipped over and plummeted toward certain doom, Twelve minutes before the crash, the pilots are in a crisis situation. Thompson says he heard it too. At 4:21 p.m. on January 31, 2000, Alaska Airlines Flight 261 crashed into the Pacific Ocean, approximately 10 miles off the coast, near Port Hueneme, California. The National Transportation Safety Board determines that the probable cause of this accident was a loss of airplane pitch control resulting from the in-flight failure of the horizontal stabilizer trim system jackscrew assembly's acme nut threads. I just that's something that oughta be in the computers, if they want it that bad they you guys oughta be able to pick up the phone---1555:00 CAM-3 mmm hmm.1555:00 CAM-1 ---just drives me nuts. The captain then radioed Alaska mechanics in Los Angeles, asking whether there were any "hidden circuit breakers" that would solve the stabilizer problem. At 4:09 p.m, the cockpit voice recorder caught the sound of two thumps, indicating the stabilizer was moving. On January 31, 2000, about 1621 Pacific standard time, Alaska Airlines, Inc., flight 261, a McDonnell Douglas MD-83, N963AS, crashed into the Pacific Ocean about 2.7 miles north of Anacapa Island, California. Witnesses saw Alaska airliner nosedive. Also contributing to the accident was the absence on the McDonnell Douglas MD-80 of a fail-safe mechanism to prevent the catastrophic effects of total acme nut thread loss. -- 4:11:43 -- First Officer William Tansky: Whatever we did, it's no good, don't do that again. Alaska Airlines Flight 261 was an Alaska Airlines flight of a McDonnell Douglas MD-83 plane that crashed into the Pacific Ocean on January 31, 2000, roughly 2.7 miles (4.3 km; . at least upside down we're flying.". Copyright . The pilots make two attempts to extend the slats and flapsto slow the plane for landing but with under two minutes of therecording left, a faint thump is followed by a loud noise. -- 4:19:54 -- Thompson: OK, we are inverted and now we gotta get it. 31 January 2000 - Alaska Airlines 261. A few months after the tragedy, Jeff told an Associated Press reporter that his mother would have been "standing in the aisle of the struggling jet, preaching and helping frightened people find God," while his father would have "been writing a note" to his two children (Jeff and 16-year-old sister Jenny) and his daughter-in-law (Jeff's wife). Boeing Co. in 1997 bought McDonnell Douglas which designed the MD-80 and related aircraft that include the DC-9, MD-90 and Boeing 717. Witnesses added little today to what had already been known about the crash. TimesMachine is an exclusive benefit for home delivery and digital subscribers. With just under four minutes left on the recording, a flight attendant comes to the cockpit to report "a big bang back there." The high school senior was scheduled to be on Flight 261. ", In a statement yesterday, an Alaska official said the two pilots "displayed the utmost professionalism.". Now, in the American Airlines plane, apparently the trim did jam, but it jammed in neutral, meaning that there was no way to relieve those control pressures, but that controls were jammed. That's where we're intending to go. The cockpit recorder captured two thumps, followed by a warning tone that indicated that the stabilizer, the broken part, was in motion. The mission of the Department of Defense is to provide a lethal Joint Force to defend the security of our country and sustain American influence abroad. Capt. '', See the article in its original context from. The flight crew advise controllers they need time to reconfigure the plane to land but want to make sure they can control the jet. 14 August 2013 - UPS 1354. The crash occurred on Jan. 31 as the crew tried an emergency landing at Los Angeles International Airport. - "Observation No. one two thousand scattered. No stall warning was heard during this event.". "My daughter's an activist, and she would have been here for me," Sanchez said. On 30 August1 September, the tail fin, including the control surfaces and the elevator control systems, the engines, and the cockpit were recovered. upon receipt of your ATC clearance read back only your callsign and transponder code unless you have a question. MARI INGRAM, EMILY'S MOTHER: It was such a close call. Just before plunging into the Pacific Ocean, the crew of Alaska Airlines Flight 261 flew upside down while desperately trying to regain control of the passenger jet, investigators confirmed Thursday. ceiling two zero thousand overcast. After the crew heard a "big bang" from the back of the plane, Thompson told a flight attendant, "I need you, everybody strapped in, dear.". Alaska Airlines Flight 261. The dispatcher relented when Thompson told him they had a serious problem. An Alaska Airlines pilot, involved in the investigation of the horrific crash of Alaska Flight 261, has listened to the cockpit voice recorder from the downed plane and he reported that for the last 9 minutes of the flight, the wife of the pastor from Monroe, WA, can be heard sharing the Gospel with the passengers over the plane's intercom system. simultaneous instrument departure in progress runway two four and two five. ''Uh, it's a lot worse than it was?'' As for the search and recovery operation, it will continue. ", - "Observation No. . That would take air pressure off the tail and make it easier, they thought, to adjust. As well, the statement "there is no good explanation for how the plane was able to stay in the air for those final 9 minutes" is just silly. Henry K. Lee has been a reporter for KTVU-TV since 2015. boy I don't know.1613:33 CAM-1 its up to you man.1613:35 CAM-2 lets head back toward uh here lets see well we're---1613:39 CAM-1 I like where were goin out over the water myself I don't like goin this fast though.1613:50 CAM [sound of click]1613:57 CAM-1 ok you got * [sound similar to short interruption in recording] second?1613:58 CAM-2 yea.1613:59 CAM-2 we better talk to the people in the back there.1614:03 CAM-1 yea I know.1614:04 LAX-CTR1 Alaska two sixty one let me know if you need anything.1614:08 RDO-2 yea we're still workin this.1614:12 PA-1 folks we have had a flight control problem up front here we're workin it uh that's Los Angeles off to the right there that's where we're intending to go. They were bused from Los Angeles to a private memorial service on the beach where the flight -- near where the flight went down. On January 31, 2000, about 1621 Pacific standard time, Alaska Airlines, Inc.,flight 261, a McDonnell Douglas MD-83, N963AS, crashed into the Pacific Ocean . Aviation officials have released more details about the final moments of Alaska Airlines Flight 261, which crashed Monday off the coast of California. The reconstruction exhibits information selected from the Flight Data Recorder, excerpts from the Cockpit Voice Recorder transcript, recorded radar data and aircraft performance data. the cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder. 26 May 2000 (p. B1). Maybe that's what Jeff would like to believe his parents did, but his conviction is purely one of faith. The crew acknowledged that they had heard it too. actually.1617:46 CAM-2 he wants us to maintain seventeen.1617:51 CAM-1 ok I need help with this here.1617:52 CAM-1 slats ext lets---1617:54 CAM-2 ok slats---1617:54 CAM-1 gimme slats extend.1617:55 CAM-2 got it.1617:56.6 CAM [sound similar to slat/flap handle movement]1617:58 CAM-1 I'm test flyin now---1617:59 CAM-2 how does it feel?1618:00 CAM-1 it's wantin to pitch over more on you.1618:02 CAM-2 really?1618:03 CAM-1 yea.1618:04 CAM-2 try flaps? fifteen, eleven?1618:05 CAM-1 ahh lets go to eleven.1618:07.3 CAM [sound similar to slat/flap handle movement]1618:09 CAM-2 ok get some power on.1618:10 CAM-1 I'm at two hundred and fifty knots, so I'm lookin.1618:17 CAM-2 real hard?1618:17 CAM-1 no actually its pretty stable right here see but we got to get down to a hundred an eighty.1618:26 CAM-1 OK bring bring the flaps and slats back up for me.1618:32 CAM-2 slats too?1618:33 CAM-1 yea.1618:36.8 CAM [sound similar to slat/flap handle movement]1618:37 CAM-2 that gives us twelve thousand pounds of fuel, don't over boost them.1618:47 CAM-1 what I'm what I wanna do1618:48 CAM [sound similar to slat/flap handle movement]1618:49 CAM-1 is get the nose up and then let the nose fall through andsee if we can stab it when it's unloaded.1618:54 CAWS [sound of chime] Altitude (repeats for approximately 34 seconds)1618:56 CAM-2 you mean use this again? Mixed with grief: relief for one Seattle-area family. visibility eight. The CSMU is a large cylinder that bolts onto the flat portion of . -- 4:20:57 -- end of recording. 1995 - 2023 by Snopes Media Group Inc. Pause, 1549:49.3 [start of recording]1549:50 SEA-MX um beyond that I have verified no history on your aircraft in the past thirty days.1549:54.8 CAM [sound of click]1549:57.7 RDO-1 yea we didn't see anything in the logbook.1550:14 CAM-2 why don't you pull your your seat forward and I'll just check this pedestal back there. I remember this is complicated, yea well, better start that now cause we are comin to you.1559:26 LAX-OPS copy.1559:29 CAM-1 we'll call em back over as we get closer to Catalina.1559:34 CAM-2 as we get what?1559:34 CAM-1 closer to L A she's got to get landing rights.1559:37 CAM-2 were ninety four miles from L A now.1559:38 CAM-1 oh ok. you wanna listen to the ATIS you can.1559:42 CAM-2 in fact I switched it once already just kinda late.1559:44 CAM-1 you got the jet.1559:44 CAM-2 I got it.1559:50 ATIS charlie five and charlie six is restricted * taxiway charlie five is restricted to MD eleven and smaller. Officials say the tape which runs a little more than 30 minutes begins with the crew discussing a stabilizer trim problem and continues until the plane hits the water. The crew of that plane also reported problems with the stabilizer trim. 10 April 2010 - Polish Air Force. I need to get down about ten, change my configuration, make sure I can control the jet and I'd like to do that out here over the bay if I may.1616:07 LAX-CTR2 ok Alaska two sixty one roger that standby here.1616:11 CAM-2 lets do it at this altitude instead---1616:11 CAM-1 what?1616:12 CAM-2 ---of goin to ten lets do it at this altitude.1616:14 CAM-1 cause the airflow's that much difference down at ten this air's thin enough that that you know what I'm sayin?1616:20 CAM-2 yea uh I'll tell em to uh---1616:22 CAM-1 I just made a PA to everyone to get everybody---1616:24 CAM-2 ok.1616:26 CAM-1 ---down you might call the flight attendants.1616:27 CAM [sound similar to cockpit door operating]1616:32 CAM-3 I was just comin up this way.1616:32 LAX-CTR2 Alaska two sixty one fly a heading of two eight zero and descend and maintain one seven thousand.1616:34 CAM-2 uhh.1616:36 CAM [sound similar to cockpit door operating]1616:39.0 RDO-1 two eight zero and one seven seventeen thousand Alaska two sixty one. All rights reserved. According to the National Transportation Safety Board, all that can be heard on the cockpit voice recorder tape is the pilots discussing stabilizer problems with air traffic control and Alaska Air maintenance personnel, a loud noise around the time the plane lost stabilizer control (and the voice of a flight attendant notifying the crew of the sound), and a second loud bang a minute before the plane plunged into the ocean. The pilot also reported that the flight data recorder from the plane indicates that there is no good explanation for how the plane was able to stay in the air for those final 9 minutes.

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